Type of sugar beet?

vic_s · Type of sugar beet?

What type of unmollased sugar beet do people use?
I tried Speedi beet but it made my mares feet go flat. Have many tried the Allen and page fast fibre and is it any good? Just playing around with feed at the moment so that I can get some weight on my horse before winter properly comes Sad

horsesfirst

I use Kwikbeet - I think it is the lowest sugar of the lot at 3% and has no added anything. It is a cooked product so soaks really fast.

Manufacturer also does uncooked version - shreds which are a grey colour. Also 3% but take longer to soak. Some people prefer the shreds because they are uncooked. But my ned is not keen.

SueH

I am thinking about the same subject.

Charnwood milling is 8% Speedibeet 5% - neither make Jake's feet flat but would like to get sugar right down as it can only improve his hoot health. Kwikbeet sounds good at 3%

horsesfirst

Kwik beet does seem more palatable (sample of 2) than the shreds.

But manufacturer did say that the digestibility of Kwikbeet is also higher.

So the sugar content the same, but Kwikbeet more easily digested than shreds. Not sure how much this matters.

Little QH is very sensitive and does ok on the Kwikbeet.

brucea

My guys get the simple systems becuase it is the only unmollassed one I can find up here. But like all SS products it is a premium price.

We have speedibeet for "oops forgot to put beet on to soak" days - but they are not so keen on it and even <shock> sometimes leave some of it.

jane stevens

I use Simple systems pura beet - unmolassed - my horses do very well on it. I soak it overnight together with Copra in one big tub.

maggiesmum

I use Fast fibre which I really like, although I wish they wouldn't insist on adding Garlic to it. I give it to my TB who can't have alfalfa. But the others get Trident unmolassed sugarbeet, its 12 hr soak pellets made by the same people who make the molassed stuff.

brucea

We just can't get the unmollassed Trident up here Crying or Very sad

stormybracken

Thank goodness someone has used the SS purabeet, I have a bag of it which I haven't dared open to see what its like in case it's mollassed as I no longer believe ANYTHING ANY manufacturer tells me. See what this has done to me? I'm sure I was never this cynical and disbelieving of the "experts" before.
Am going to be one of those old women who doesn't own a TV because "they" are watching her, and wears purple and green and lives with her 93 cats, who eventually eat her. Or I could go and poo-pick my fields, that usually restores sanity.

maggie345

Interesting. I'm trying to decide what to feed this winter too.
horsesfirst - where did you find the 3% sugar for Kwikbeet? I looked at the D&H webpage, but it doesn't list sugar content. Did you ask them? If you have a full analysis, could you put it into the "feed ingredients" thread?

I've tried out speedibeet on my horse, but he doesn't seem to like it much. Might give Kwikbeet a try.

horsesfirst

D&H got the Horsesfirst grilling Embarassed

MI5 have nothing on me Laughing

Kwikbeet is just plain cooked beet after it has had the sugar extracted for human consumption. It has no added molasses.

D&H now have an online shop www.dodsonandhorrellonline.co.uk

Kwikbeet is £10.00 and shipping for one bag is £5.88 in the UK.

But my local feed shop sells it for £9.60

becnreps

This is a good thread.
I'm having 'problems' with my unmollassed beet at the moment. I'm giving him SS Purabeet and his supplements and he doesn't eat most of it! Mad

I wonder if he would eat more if I gave him the kwikbeet? He used to have kwikbeet but that was back when I fed him Baileys Lo-Cal too as I wasn't aware of the 'barefoot diet'!
He started turning his nose up at it when I stopped adding lucie stalks. Put them back in for a bit and he still didnt eat any more of it.
I'm thinking about maybe trying A&P Fast Fibre instead of purabeet in a bid to try and get him to eat it!

horsesfirst

They are all so different aren't they?

The minute the weather turned Grace decided she didn't need so much cal mag or brewers yeast - but we couldn't agree on how much she would/should eat (so she had a few days of rejecting the lot - doesn't go in for half measures). So I upped the Kwikbeet in relation to the CM & BY and now its all going down swiftly.

And as others have found - she won't eat it if the seaweed has been mixed in for any length of time.

Oh and I have to get the linseed just right too and she wants a bit less of that these days.

Little QH is not so fussy - unless the CM & BY get seriously too much in volume compared to the beet. Basically with her if it remains motionless for a while or is hay coloured it gets eaten. Including my dog, multiple headcollars, leadropes, the car bumper, anything wooden, the rain water barrel, other horses ..........

becnreps

hehe horsesfirst! eating everything ... your poor dog! Laughing

Maybe thats what it is, he might be trying to tell me that he doesnt need as much MgO ... or linseed.
I'll do some experimenting!

hobnob

I use Allen and Page Fast Fibre which is unmolassed beet based and they wolf it down. But they also eat most things abit like little QH of Horsesfirst !! Favourite at the moment is a sneaky gobful of chicken poo shavings when I am cleaning out the hens. Nice !!

babyjay

Last week (before this topic was born) I bought a bag of Speedibeet, thinking best after ones internet reserch and limited knowledge. Everyone lurves it and fed as a token feed as all still rather fat!

maggie345

I did another trial with the speedibeet myself, and this time I did the rinse-soak-rinse routine before feeding. Just a small amount added to his usual bucket feed. This time, no funny faces and pawing from the horse. Either he's getting used to the taste, or maybe the r/s/r makes the BP more tasteless and less offending?
The rinsing water was pretty brown-greyish, I have to say, though I didn't find it sweet to the taste.

Yann

I've always fed speedibeet and have had no trouble with foot splatting or palatability.

brucea

Yann

Most definitely! Laughing

vic_s

Just been looking at fast fibre by allen and page and its says

'The vitamin and mineral supplement in these feeds provides Vitamin A, Vitamin D3, Vitamin E, Copper, Selenium, Vitamin K, Folic Acid, Nicotinic Acid, Pantothenic Acid, Vitamins B1, B2, B6, B12, Biotin, Iodine, Cobalt, Iron, Manganese, Zinc, Calcium and Magnesium. '

So if you feed it would you continue feeding seaweed , magnesium etc ? Smile

hobnob

I do feed additional vits as they only get a couple of mugfuls. They also have a mineral lick which they use aswell !!

vic_s

Thanks hobnob Smile

Mine loves her salt lick, so think I will get a vit/ mins block as well then just add a bit extra magnesium and see how she goes.
Its trying to keep everything balanced that gets me confused.