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Nic



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be nice to list as many feeds as we can - in particular the following are commonly used but its hard to find the ingredients, so if anyone can provide them...!

Blue Chip
Farriers Formula
Keratex hoof supplement
Formula 4 Feet

PS: Credit where credit is due, at least Baileys list their ingredients on their website www.baileyshorsefeeds.co.uk, which is more than most companies do...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Farrier's Formula: (From Life Data)

INGREDIENTS - Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal. Yeast Culture Lecithin. DL-Methionine. Soy Protein Concentrate. Ascorbic Acid. Biotin. Copper Sulphate Zinc Oxide. Cobalt Carbonate. Calcium Iodate. Hydrated Sodium Calcium Aluminosilicate. Vegetable oil. Permitted natural and artificial flavourings added (UE# 217C. 201C. 409C. 282C, 648C, 4T7C).

Analysis:
Nutrient Percent mg / 6 oz cup*  (mg / 170gm)
Crude Protein 17.00 % 17.00 % 29,000 mg
Lysine 0.636 % 0.636 % 1,081 mg
DL-Melhionine 3.644 % 3.644 % 6,195 mg
Cystine 0.178 % 0.178 % 303 mg
GIycine 0.452 % 0.452 % 768 mg
Proline 0.349 % 0.349 % 593 mg
Hydroxyproline 0.115 % 0.115 % 863 mg
Tyrosine 0.208 % 0.208 % 354 mg
Phenylalanine 0.642 % 0.642 % 1,091 mg
Crude Fat 9.00 % 9.00 % 15,000 mg
Crude Fibre, Max 20.00 % 20.00 % 34,000 mg
Ash 10.00 % 10.00 % 17,000 mg
Choline 1300 mg/lb 0.288 % 490 mg
Inositol 700mg/lb 0.153 % 260 mg
Biotin 14 mg/lb 0.003 % 5.3 mg
Zinc 1450 ppm 0.145 % 250 mg
Copper 540 ppm 0.054 % 90 mg
Cobalt 7 ppm 0.0007 % 1.20 mg
Iodine 4.7 ppm 0.00047 % 0.8 mg

source: http://www.farriersformula.co.nz/farriers2.shtml
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Formula 4 Feet

Ingredients:
25-40% Lucerne meal, 10-24.99% Minerals and Vitamins, Dried yeast (non-viable), <10% Beans, Soya Concentrate GMF, Toasted Soya Beans GMF, Vegetable Fat, Apple Flavour, Antioxidant E321.


Analysis is too much to copy. Here's the link:
http://www.equilife.co.uk/Ingredanalysis.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was talking to a lady who uses Tesco Value curry powder (it comes in red and yellow flavours apparently) to flavour her horse's feed and hide the taste of any medicines.

Apparently he loves it. Probably good for him too?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand my link didn't work ... is there any way that I can make a word document available so you all can see it?!
(I'm not very I.T techy sorry!  Embarassed )
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maggie - someone (can't remember who, might have been Anni) advised me to squeeze all the soaking water out of the Speedibeet and then rinse it with fresh water for the wee lami lads.


I am a cheap skate and don't use speedibeet but ordinary sugar beet that I rinse to get rid of the mollasses until the water runs clear. I tried washing speedibeet and got a fair bit of mollasses out of it. More that I would have expected.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is really interesting. People so often hear something about a supplement and repeat it without any evidence to support it. I was told Formula 4 Feet had added sugar and it was therefore rubbish. I use it and it has no added sugar and is a very comprehensive supplement, what I also like about the company site is that it tells you why it has included certain things in it.  The more info they are willing to give the better, obviously.

I don't suppose any one supplement is prefect and can meet every horses' needs but the more info we have the better we can compare.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allen and Page - Fast Fibre - this is all I feed with my powders !


Oil - 2.5 percent
Protein - 8.5 percent
Fibre - 27.0 percent
Estimate DE - 8.0Mj/kg
Starch - 5.0 percent
Calcium - 1.1 percent
Vit A - 10,000IU/kg
Vit D - 1,500 IU/kg
Vit E - 100 IU/kg

Ingredients -

(min 40 percent) cereal straw (treated), (10-25 percent) unmolassed beet, (less than 10 percent) oat fibre, expelled linseed, grass meal, Di-calcium phosphate, calcium carbonate, expelled soya oil, sodium chloride, natural vitamins, vitamins and minerals, mint, herbs garlic.

No figures I am afraid but vits and mins are : Vit A, D3, E, copper, selenium, K, Folic acid, nicotinic acid, pantothenic acid, B1, B2, B6, B12, biotin, iodine, cobalt, iron, manganese, zinc, potassium, sodium, calcium, phosphorous.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the Fast Fibre does anyone know what grass meal is other than just grass, and how the straw is treated or what expelled linseed and expelled soya oil actually are?
Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seaweed - Ascophylum Nodosum

Typical Analysis of Certified Organic Ascophylum Nodosum

General Average %
Moisture 9.0
Crude Protein 8.5
Crude Fiber 4.0
Total Ash (Minerals) 29.0
Fat 2.0
Carbohydrates (Nitrogen Free Extracts) 47.5

Major Elements %
Calcium 2.1

Chloride 6.5
Potassium 2.7
Magnesium 0.85
Nitrogen 1.4
Sodium 4.0
Phosphorus 0.3
Sulfur 2.8

Minor/Trace Elements PPM
Aluminum 289
Arsenic (FCC) <3
Boron 98
Cadmium 1
Cobalt 4
Chromium 0.8
Copper 4
Iron 622
Mercury 0.4
Iodine 780
Manganese 60
Molybdenum 2
Lead <5
Selenium 0.3
Tin 6.5
Zinc 12

Vitamins
Retinol 390 ppb
Riboflavine 4.9 ppm
Niacin 182.6 ppm
Ascorbic Acid 375 ppm
Cholecalciferol 150 ppb
Alpha Tocopherol 110 ppm

Amino Acids % of total Amino Acids
Alanine 5.52
Arginine 5.47
Aspartic Acid 9.88
Cystine 1.49
Glycine 5.70
Glutamic Acid 12.03
Histidine 1.29
Isoleucine 3.26
Leucine 5.63
Lysine 4.24
Methionine 1.07
Phenylalanine 3.54
Proline 3.71
Serine 4.92
Threonine 4.60
Tryptophan 1.68
Tyrosine 3.52
Valine 3.51



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