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Nic



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This suggests the natural form of vitamin C is superior.


Very good point, Sue, and probably one of the main reasons why plant-based mineral supplements can work better than synthetic/inorganic ones.

The same is true of selenium, which is much better absorbed when in a natural form (eg: brewers yeast) rather than as sodium selenite, which is a common source in feed supplements.

Although minerals are listed on supplements, you have to ask how much of it is actually available to the horse if they are all in a synthetic form.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey - I'm learning more on here than I ever did in chemistry at school  Embarassed

Just shows you have to know the questions to ask, and then what the answer should be!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's another one :

Multi-Worm ingredients
1. Andrographis
2. Chelone Glabra
3. Echinacea
4. Apium
5. Embelia
6. Ochrocar
7. Butea
8. Sulphur
9. Filix Mas
10. Granatum
11. Kamala

Haven't heard of this wormer before.  Anyone used it?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will get full listing but note that Dodson and Horrell Kwikbeet is less sugar than speedibeet. Its down at 3%. I may be changing to that me thinks.

I do have some Charnwood milling beet which works about about £6 a bag, but thats up there at 8% !!!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prob has a few naughty things in but my girl likes it

Allen and Page , Ride and Relax
Barley- free , Molasses- free and Alfalfa -free.

Protein 9.5%
Fibre 22.0%
Vit A 10,000 iu/kg
Vit D 1,500 iu/kg
Vit E 80 iu/kg as Alpha Tocopherol as acetate
Cu 14.0 mg/kg
Oil 4%
Ash 9%

Ingredients: (25%-40% ) Cereal Straw ( treated) (10%-25%) Peas, Maise , Wheat Syrup,Expelled linseed, Oat straw, Soya , expelled soya oil ,Calcium Carbonate, Di-Calcium Phosphate , Grass Meal, Mint , Sodium Chloride, Garlic, herbs ,FOS/MOS prebiotic , Protexin.

Says on website :
Estimated DE 9.5MJ/Kg
Starch 15%
Sugar 5%

The vitamin and mineral supplement in these feeds provides Vitamin A, Vitamin D3, Vitamin E, Copper, Selenium, Vitamin K, Folic Acid, Nicotinic Acid, Pantothenic Acid, Vitamins B1, B2, B6, B12, Biotin, Iodine, Cobalt, Iron, Manganese, Zinc, Calcium and Magnesium.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wheat syrup and how much sugar has it? What is it the leftover from?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from google -

Wheat syrup is made form the starch portion of Wheat by milling the wheat, cooking it with water and adding an enzyme like amylase to break down the starch into glucose or maltose (two glucose stuck together). It is possible to also create a fructose syrup with some minor catalytic action. It has the same nutritional value as any other saccharide, 4 Kcal's per gram. The minor mineral content is seen as a defect but is good for you.

I'm none the wiser!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So....it's sugar  Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in a whole bunch of words ... yes!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironic that so many companies market "lo cal" feeds, and in fact you are paying for chopped straw, covered in syrup or mollasses to make the horses eat it....

Bet they would find it harder to market if it was called "Sugar coated straw with added minerals" instead of Ride and Relax/Hi-fi/Happy Hoof etc  Confused  Very Happy



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