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SueH



Joined: 15 Oct 2007
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Location: Gorsedd North Wales

PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brucea - Very interesting about seaweed. I will have to try different types to find most palatable to J.

I did speak to Equus health who said they were now sourcing from Canadian waters cos UK sourced seaweed had too high arsenic levels!

Thanks for tip about dandelion leaves - I did used to add mobility herb mix from Dodson and Horrel and this contains Dandelion. But Jake's been quite flexible around the hock so didnt add this winter.  


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brucea



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Location: Aberdeen

PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't buy any of the horse herb mixes any more - I get the individual herbs and components from CotwsWolds Herbs and Spices (www.herbsandspices.biz) and make up my own. Hilary Self's book is useful as is the modern herbal (Grieve). It is easy enough to make up extracts, tinctures and creams.
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SueH



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I've been advised about Hilary Self's book before - must get that one. I do know what you mean about herb mixes - I think that was why I was hesitant about going for the mobility mix again. I felt this winter I had got to grips with his diet, after nutritionist report and my own research. The just to fling in a pre-mix of herbs didnt seem very smart unless each was needed. I'll look into this more.

Laminitic pony had an hour out today for first time in 3 weeks. I'm going to adopt him as trial for having second pony as mate for Jake. The owners are just to busy to manage re-habbing him so it works for everyone, at least in short term.  When he's better I'll work through the Parelli with him so he's a bit more manageable (he's got a bit wild due to lack of handling)

Basically whole herd went ballistic when lammy pony out again - who buckerooed with delight also. Brill to see Jake with vertical take off tail prancing across crusher run. Not bad for navic neddy.

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brucea



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have had crisp and beautifu;l weather here for the last few days - down to -7 last night where I was (so cold I was told the guinea pigs had to be brought into my daughter's bedroom or they would freeze to death  Confused )

Trimmed both Link and Bramble yesterday and feet all looking great. Linbk's cavity where the vet dug for the abscess has now grown out of his sole. Bramble's feet are looking good and the footiness that we saw as a result of the haylage has all gone now. He still has wimpy frogs and I am trying to give them as much ground contact as possible. Better than they were though, so little improvements all the time and I'm grateful for what we get.

Had a fun job - a miniature shetland has appeared at the yard - one of the ladies who has massive 17hh jumpers for some reason has taken a soft spot for a wee miniature shetland (about 26 inches) - no idea what she is going to do with him. He's in with a couple of mares who are terrified iof him and poor little chap wants to make friends but they keep running away! But his feet are way too long so I trimmed him when I did Bramble yesterday. Very simple trim and he behaved beautifully, but there are unique challenges working with these little guys. It would be easier to just roll them over on their backs!!! Her farrier had tactfully declined (no time, in a rush)...now I know why. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could buy a sheep-turner Bruse - it's what htey do to trim their feet - I could just see a miniature Shetland in one upside down  Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All tip top down here although very cold !!  Everyones feet look great but lgl pones heels still need to get lower when she is ready.  Nearly been trimming them for a year now and have learnt alot.  Still strip grazing OLD grass and topping up with hay.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caroline - after the sheer effort of crawling around the floor doing that job, with all the girls in the yard peeing in their jodhpurs laughing at me - a sheep turner sounds just great.

I could set up a small business in a van with a slide out sheep turner - doing all the shetlands that no self respecting farrier would want to do! It would be like a scene from Wallace and Gromitt!

The wee chap's feet are quite long though - took them back as far as I was comfortable, and recomended the owner gets him off grass, becuase I think he's a disaster waiting to happen.
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sarahh



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quiet month here in Wiltshire due to me still being mostly out of use with damaged ligaments.
Boy has done some quiet hacking, Tyler has been backed with the help of my 11 year old sister (he is a quiet boy).
Both still have v good feet despite doing nothing.
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Tally



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking for feeding advice.

My girl is doing well, feet and work wise. But I have noticed a sudden weight loss. She had lost ~30 kg from her "fatest" this summer over the last few months but recently over the last 3 weeks she lost another 20kg.

I want to stop this as we are just at the beginning of winter ! She works quite hard but I think the problem is the field - too many horses on it / not enough grazing and getting poached... Have already complained to the YO!
My girl is on soaked Alfa pellets from Dengie and Speedi beet morning and evening + ad lib haylage at night. I'm thinking of adding a small ration of conditioning cubes for afternoon tea when she comes in from the field.

I'd appreciate if anyone could suggest something better.

Tally
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hobnob



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tally - can they have haylage in the field aswell.  All I can think of is the normal teeth and worms up to date etc and make sure each bucket feed is not any bigger than 2kg (supposing she is around the 550kg mark).  I suppose it depends how you are with lgl and your ned, but if she can tolerate it conditioning cubes would be good I would think.  Topspec do Fibre Plus nuts with linseed and soya oil which I supposed to be good for lammy's so maybe worth a try.  Or you could add generous quantities of linseed - either cooked yourself or ready prepared !!
Could she do with an extra rug ??


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